A big fat zero

"Distraxi's idea of perfection is a Jagroen" (distraxi) 05/03/2020 at 23:25 • Filed to: covid-19, work sucks

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..new cases today here in NZ . Been in single digits for a while, but this is our f irst clean day.

We’re still under a pretty tight lockdown here for the next week and a half at least, ( though we’ve come out of full shelter in-place) . But I’m starting to believe that when we come out we might stay out.

Though it’s not all rosy. As I write this I’m supposed to be dealing with paperwork associated with pay cuts and restructuring: the compan y’s positioni ng for shit to stay ugly for a while o n the economic front.

And on the personal front, I currently own two houses I can’t live in or rent, am renting a third I actually live in, have major renovation contracts in pl ace on both the unlived in ones which I can’t wriggle out of without major consequences , and since none of this was entirely voluntary you can imagine how ugly my finances look. So I need a pay cut like a kick in the hea d. Beats unemployment though.

Still apparently I don’t need to worry about m y folks dying of COVID19 , so that’s good.

Bouncing bomb for your time. Becau se what goes down will come up. And go down. And come up. And go down. An d come up. And go down. And ....ah, well, bad anal o gy.

gmporschenut also a fan of hondas > Distraxi's idea of perfection is a Jagroen 05/03/2020 at 23:43

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Its almost as if taking action early, results in shorter outcomes.

The naval version Highball is cool too. 

Distraxi's idea of perfection is a Jagroen > gmporschenut also a fan of hondas 05/03/2020 at 23:51

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(applies to both parts of the comment)

SilentButNotReallyDeadly...killed by G/O Media > Distraxi's idea of perfection is a Jagroen 05/03/2020 at 23:54

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Looks like Oz won’t be far behind. I heard your PM is joining our so called National Cabinet (formed of state and federal leaders and their health advisers) meeting tomorrow,  seemingly with the intention of perhaps creating a trans Tasman travel and trade zone whilst still having closed borders to everyone else...

DipodomysDeserti > Distraxi's idea of perfection is a Jagroen 05/04/2020 at 00:00

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“ Still apparently I don’t need to worry about my folks dying of COVID19, so that’s good.”

You said you were on a strict lockdown which means very little immunity in the population. If you’re worried about your folks dying from this, you’ll need to keep them locked up until there’s a vaccine. Viruses don’t just disappear.

Weren’t you worried about coworker not getting a Measles vaccine a few months ago? We’ve had a vaccine since the ‘60s and it is still floating around at epidemic levels.  

Distraxi's idea of perfection is a Jagroen > DipodomysDeserti 05/04/2020 at 00:42

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Comes down to our ability (and willingness) to control our borders and contact trace if new outbreaks pop up. We’ ve got pretty decent procedures in place for both now, and I think there’s a general acceptance here that heavily restricted borders for the foreseeable future , with consequent effects on tourism and business in general, is a price worth paying to keep it out. Nothing’s foolproof, but I’d say there’s a halfway decent chance we can keep it contained to the odd cluster eve ry so often for the next year or two if we have to. At that level, it’s in the noise compared to the average 80+ year old’s chance of dying of something else random .  

Viruses don’t just disappear, but they can be kept to a level where they’re no higher a risk than other everyday risks . Measles is a pretty decent example - demonstrably we don’t have a high enough vaccination rate for herd imm unity to be fully effe c tive, but once we’d clamped down on that outbreak it’s stayed clamped for the last year or so , and it’s about 15 years before that since the previou s major outbreak here . Different scenario, I agree, and so’s E bola, SARS, MERS, and any number of other vir uses that flare up and die away so mewhere in the world e very so often, but that the point remains that epidemics don’t last for ever even if the disease still exists .

Distraxi's idea of perfection is a Jagroen > SilentButNotReallyDeadly...killed by G/O Media 05/04/2020 at 00:46

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It’ll be interesting to see how caution plays against the desire for tourist dollars. I can see it happening in a few months, but it’ll take a while for the trust to build up to make it work

Wheelerguy > Distraxi's idea of perfection is a Jagroen 05/04/2020 at 01:15

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This is also what happens if you don’t suck China’s dick.

Now where was I? Oh, right, the bloody Philippines, of course. Typical.